Hole No. 13 is the "Signature" hole at the Grossinger Country Club. It is 512-yards long and plays to a par 5 with this "island green" sitting out in the lake. An outstanding hole that requires good golf shots.
Water falls, ponds and lakes are added features at the Joe Finger designed Grossinger Country Club championship golf course. Memories Of Grossinger Country Club
Back before they redesigned the "Big G" golf course at the Grossinger Hotel they didn't have golf carts and caddies made a summer-months living carrying one and two golf bags for 18-holes seven days a week.
And if you were good at this trade you might work 18-holes in the morning and 9 holes in the afternoon. An accomplished caddy in the early 1950's could easily take home several hundred dollars a week and that was considered pretty good pay at that time.
My brother-in-law was a good golfer and while attending college he worked as a caddy at the Grossinger course. As a youngster attending Liberty High School and one who loved the game of golf I was introduced to Caddy Master "Frank" who took a liking to me as I followed the rules and remembered well that if you tipped the caddy master each week he always made sure that you got plenty of work. It also helped to know the game and know how to club the golfers you were working for.
Now when I say "club the golfers" it means you knew what club to give them at certain positions on the golf course. If they scored well you were rewarded with a larger tip.
In my early "caddy days" the head professional at the then 18-hole Grossinger Course was Joe Turnesa, a very accomplished professional and a pure gentleman who was well known in the golf industry.
We all remember the movie "Caddy Shack" but the true meaning of this term was the section of the club house where the caddies sat waiting to be called for work. Caddies were paid a specific fee according to how many bags you carried and how many holes you worked. A good caddy got a bigger tip if he knew his trade.
Many movie-television stars and professional athletes came up to the Grossinger Hotel and most played golf. I had the opportunity to caddy for such greats as World Heavy-Weight Boxing Champion Joe Lewis, comedian Jerry Lewis and singer Dean Martin. Lewis and Martin were a true comedy act even on the golf course.
Remember meeting and becoming friends with one of the "professional" caddies, "Mike" who worked the Grossinger Hotel in the spring. summer and fall and a Florida course in the winter months. He was almost guaranteed two rounds of 18-holes a day with double bags. A class "A" caddy I remember he drove a nice Cadillac and wore the best in golf shoes and clothing. A real professional who added dignity to the game.
Yes, those were some of the "good old days" at the Grossinger Golf Course.
Houston architect Joe Finger redesigned the "Big G" as it is today and he rewarded ball flight and touch rather than brute power and distance but Finger's design makes golfers control their ball from uneven lies.
Each nine holes at Grossinger starts a top a hill, works down into a valley and then back to the top of the hill with many holes having a bend, most right to left and go around water hazards and bunkers.
Green fees for this "Golfers Paradise" on the weekday up to 2:30 is $65 and after 2:30 its $45. Special rates are available with the Hudson Valley Golf Pass and the Golf Card and fall rates go into effect on 10-1 thru closing.
Rates for the 9-hole Vista course is $20 for nine holes and $27 for 18 holes and if you walk its $12 and $20 both weekdays and weekends.
For the special rates and the senior special Monday-Thursday (55 and over) with lunch, call 845-292-9000. The web site is http://www.grossingergolf.net/
Todd Barker is the Director of Golf at both the Grossinger Country Club and Concord Resort.
Last week we outlined the first nine holes of this course and this week we take you through the back nine (10-18). The back nine plays 3,229 yards to a par 36.
Hole No. 10 is a 368-yard par 4 and the key to this hole is keeping your tee shot left center. The second shot is the key to your par and club selection both off the tee and the second shot is important.
Hole No. 11 is a 164-yard par 3 with an elevated tee and a pond directly in front of the green. Bunkers surround this green so club selection is the key to a par.
Hole No. 12 is a 470-yard par 4 with a dogleg left. Take your tee shot right center and a fairway wood on the second shot to a large undulating green with traps in the front left and right.
Hole No. 13 is a 512-yard par 5 and could certainly be called the signature hole on this 18-hole course. It's the "island green" (40 yards in depth and 29 yards in width) and requires a good long tee shot over a small stream and a solid fairway shot that can put you in good shape for the third shot to a green situated out in Grossinger Lake. Yes this hole can be a par with good golf shots.
Hole No. 14 is a 452-yard par 4. Keep the tee shot straight to a narrow fairway. Key to scoring on this hole is getting your second shot over a stream that runs in front of the green. Traps are left side and right front.
Hole No. 15 is a 415-yard par 4 with a dogleg left. Take the tee shot right center towards the fairway bunker. The second shot is all uphill to a large green. Three traps are in front of this green and one in the rear.
Hole No. 16 is a 550-yard par 4 with a dogleg right. Take your tee shot left center to the corner. A mid iron will take your second shot short of the green. A brook runs in front of the green. Traps are left and right on this green.
Hole No. 17 is a 171-yard par 3 and it's all uphill to an elevated green. Traps are front center and left and right. Club selection is the key to your par here.
Hole No. 18 is a 397-yard par 4 with the fairway sloping left to right. Let it all out on your tee shot and the right club takes your second shot to a green with traps in the front and rear.
This 18-hole championship course that once played host to the prestigious New York State Open is certainly one of the elite golf courses in the Northeast.
The Golf Tip
By Robert Menges
Preventing The Flying Right Elbow: The flying right elbow is one of the game's best known negative touchstones. It occurs in the back swing when the elbow juts out behind the player so the right arm forms the letter V or L, depending on the angle from which you view it. What's wrong with a flying right elbow? It restricts te width or arc of the back swing, for one thing. It also makes it difficult to get the shaft parallel at the top of the swing with the longer clubs, a restriction that reduces power. Finally, you don't want the elbow jutting out in the downswing because this also limits power and adds inaccuracy to the mix. So, you must drop it down and in toward your right side. This connection is an extra move that, must be made in less than a second of real time. However, trying to keep the elbow in close is too restrictive. It prevents a free flowing overall swing motion and narrows the width of the back swing, both of which costs power. The right elbow can move away from the right side in the back swing so long as it remains pointed down toward the ground and in a viable effective position. This will generate fluidity in the swing and allow the elbow to easily and readily return to or near the right side of the downswing. You do want the elbow close to the body in the downswing because it keeps the club moving from the inside. To put it another, more meaningful way, it prevents the club from going "over the top" and cutting the ball from outside to inside the target line at impact. Which is to say, with the right elbow in close to your side at impact, you are much less likely to hit a slice. Indeed, there is a good chance you will get a nice little draw on the ball.
Robert Menges is the head golf professional at the Swan Lake Golf & Country Club, Mt. Hope Road, Swan Lake. He is available for private lessons and if you have a question or subject you would like covered, he can be reached by phone at 292-0323 or via e-mail at menges@hughes.net
Ed's Outlook
You can't defend if you can't stand............It is rare for the defending champion at a major to skip the tournament.
But that will be the case when Tiger Woods misses the PGA Championship in August--the first time a major champion won't defend since Payne Stewart died in a plane crash four months after winning the 1999 U.S. Open.
No other player has missed defense of the PGA since Ben Hogan, who won in 1948, then was involved in a near-fatal car accident in February 1949, causing him to miss the rest of the year.
This column is written by Ed Townsend, who is a consultant to the amateur sport of golf and professional golf facilities. If you have a topic that you believe would make good reading or have league standings and tournament information, please call Ed at 439-8177 or send an e-mail to bowlgolfect1@yahoo.com
For a much more expanded version of this golf column please visit the Web site bght@blogspot.com
Back before they redesigned the "Big G" golf course at the Grossinger Hotel they didn't have golf carts and caddies made a summer-months living carrying one and two golf bags for 18-holes seven days a week.
And if you were good at this trade you might work 18-holes in the morning and 9 holes in the afternoon. An accomplished caddy in the early 1950's could easily take home several hundred dollars a week and that was considered pretty good pay at that time.
My brother-in-law was a good golfer and while attending college he worked as a caddy at the Grossinger course. As a youngster attending Liberty High School and one who loved the game of golf I was introduced to Caddy Master "Frank" who took a liking to me as I followed the rules and remembered well that if you tipped the caddy master each week he always made sure that you got plenty of work. It also helped to know the game and know how to club the golfers you were working for.
Now when I say "club the golfers" it means you knew what club to give them at certain positions on the golf course. If they scored well you were rewarded with a larger tip.
In my early "caddy days" the head professional at the then 18-hole Grossinger Course was Joe Turnesa, a very accomplished professional and a pure gentleman who was well known in the golf industry.
We all remember the movie "Caddy Shack" but the true meaning of this term was the section of the club house where the caddies sat waiting to be called for work. Caddies were paid a specific fee according to how many bags you carried and how many holes you worked. A good caddy got a bigger tip if he knew his trade.
Many movie-television stars and professional athletes came up to the Grossinger Hotel and most played golf. I had the opportunity to caddy for such greats as World Heavy-Weight Boxing Champion Joe Lewis, comedian Jerry Lewis and singer Dean Martin. Lewis and Martin were a true comedy act even on the golf course.
Remember meeting and becoming friends with one of the "professional" caddies, "Mike" who worked the Grossinger Hotel in the spring. summer and fall and a Florida course in the winter months. He was almost guaranteed two rounds of 18-holes a day with double bags. A class "A" caddy I remember he drove a nice Cadillac and wore the best in golf shoes and clothing. A real professional who added dignity to the game.
Yes, those were some of the "good old days" at the Grossinger Golf Course.
Houston architect Joe Finger redesigned the "Big G" as it is today and he rewarded ball flight and touch rather than brute power and distance but Finger's design makes golfers control their ball from uneven lies.
Each nine holes at Grossinger starts a top a hill, works down into a valley and then back to the top of the hill with many holes having a bend, most right to left and go around water hazards and bunkers.
Green fees for this "Golfers Paradise" on the weekday up to 2:30 is $65 and after 2:30 its $45. Special rates are available with the Hudson Valley Golf Pass and the Golf Card and fall rates go into effect on 10-1 thru closing.
Rates for the 9-hole Vista course is $20 for nine holes and $27 for 18 holes and if you walk its $12 and $20 both weekdays and weekends.
For the special rates and the senior special Monday-Thursday (55 and over) with lunch, call 845-292-9000. The web site is http://www.grossingergolf.net/
Todd Barker is the Director of Golf at both the Grossinger Country Club and Concord Resort.
Last week we outlined the first nine holes of this course and this week we take you through the back nine (10-18). The back nine plays 3,229 yards to a par 36.
Hole No. 10 is a 368-yard par 4 and the key to this hole is keeping your tee shot left center. The second shot is the key to your par and club selection both off the tee and the second shot is important.
Hole No. 11 is a 164-yard par 3 with an elevated tee and a pond directly in front of the green. Bunkers surround this green so club selection is the key to a par.
Hole No. 12 is a 470-yard par 4 with a dogleg left. Take your tee shot right center and a fairway wood on the second shot to a large undulating green with traps in the front left and right.
Hole No. 13 is a 512-yard par 5 and could certainly be called the signature hole on this 18-hole course. It's the "island green" (40 yards in depth and 29 yards in width) and requires a good long tee shot over a small stream and a solid fairway shot that can put you in good shape for the third shot to a green situated out in Grossinger Lake. Yes this hole can be a par with good golf shots.
Hole No. 14 is a 452-yard par 4. Keep the tee shot straight to a narrow fairway. Key to scoring on this hole is getting your second shot over a stream that runs in front of the green. Traps are left side and right front.
Hole No. 15 is a 415-yard par 4 with a dogleg left. Take the tee shot right center towards the fairway bunker. The second shot is all uphill to a large green. Three traps are in front of this green and one in the rear.
Hole No. 16 is a 550-yard par 4 with a dogleg right. Take your tee shot left center to the corner. A mid iron will take your second shot short of the green. A brook runs in front of the green. Traps are left and right on this green.
Hole No. 17 is a 171-yard par 3 and it's all uphill to an elevated green. Traps are front center and left and right. Club selection is the key to your par here.
Hole No. 18 is a 397-yard par 4 with the fairway sloping left to right. Let it all out on your tee shot and the right club takes your second shot to a green with traps in the front and rear.
This 18-hole championship course that once played host to the prestigious New York State Open is certainly one of the elite golf courses in the Northeast.
The Golf Tip
By Robert Menges
Preventing The Flying Right Elbow: The flying right elbow is one of the game's best known negative touchstones. It occurs in the back swing when the elbow juts out behind the player so the right arm forms the letter V or L, depending on the angle from which you view it. What's wrong with a flying right elbow? It restricts te width or arc of the back swing, for one thing. It also makes it difficult to get the shaft parallel at the top of the swing with the longer clubs, a restriction that reduces power. Finally, you don't want the elbow jutting out in the downswing because this also limits power and adds inaccuracy to the mix. So, you must drop it down and in toward your right side. This connection is an extra move that, must be made in less than a second of real time. However, trying to keep the elbow in close is too restrictive. It prevents a free flowing overall swing motion and narrows the width of the back swing, both of which costs power. The right elbow can move away from the right side in the back swing so long as it remains pointed down toward the ground and in a viable effective position. This will generate fluidity in the swing and allow the elbow to easily and readily return to or near the right side of the downswing. You do want the elbow close to the body in the downswing because it keeps the club moving from the inside. To put it another, more meaningful way, it prevents the club from going "over the top" and cutting the ball from outside to inside the target line at impact. Which is to say, with the right elbow in close to your side at impact, you are much less likely to hit a slice. Indeed, there is a good chance you will get a nice little draw on the ball.
Robert Menges is the head golf professional at the Swan Lake Golf & Country Club, Mt. Hope Road, Swan Lake. He is available for private lessons and if you have a question or subject you would like covered, he can be reached by phone at 292-0323 or via e-mail at menges@hughes.net
Ed's Outlook
You can't defend if you can't stand............It is rare for the defending champion at a major to skip the tournament.
But that will be the case when Tiger Woods misses the PGA Championship in August--the first time a major champion won't defend since Payne Stewart died in a plane crash four months after winning the 1999 U.S. Open.
No other player has missed defense of the PGA since Ben Hogan, who won in 1948, then was involved in a near-fatal car accident in February 1949, causing him to miss the rest of the year.
This column is written by Ed Townsend, who is a consultant to the amateur sport of golf and professional golf facilities. If you have a topic that you believe would make good reading or have league standings and tournament information, please call Ed at 439-8177 or send an e-mail to bowlgolfect1@yahoo.com
For a much more expanded version of this golf column please visit the Web site bght@blogspot.com
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